PERMAUL TULSI et al v. JACK RESNICK & SONS, INC. et al, 502603/2013, 45 (N.Y. Sup. Ct., Kings County Jan. 30, 2017) (2024)

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`JACK RESNICK § SONS,
`STREET, LLC,
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`Third—Party Plaintiffs,
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`GUARDIAN SERVICE INDUSTRIES,
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`INC.,
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`Third—Party Defendants.
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`H&B REPORTING CO.
`121 Radigan Avenue
`Staten Island, New York
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`Is he still there?
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`Is he still the Chief
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`6 A.M.
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`Q Workspeed,
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`Just
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`They're a little bit different.
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`theyflre just grilles that go
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`sucks the air out.
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`GOes up to the rooftop?
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`You talked about
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`system being programmed to shut down
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`at six; would that also shut down the
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`exhaust system, or
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`diffuser, what we're talking about?
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`We usually run the toilet a
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`this way if people have
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`to do some things before they go home
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`we allow it to ventilate.
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`it your Chief Engineer would
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`The chief programs in.
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`Is the Chief Engineer
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`someone with an engineering license,
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`do you know?
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`He has
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`he has an engineering license.
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`York State?
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`This is a building engineer?
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`They have a
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`Right.
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`The
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`the Chief Engineer, who were the two
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`A What
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`MS. MILCH: Who_is‘the third
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`Jack Piqua.
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`A Mike, Pete and Jack.
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`He was before that, but he
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`And Delroy came
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`'Me and my adman.
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`A Yaskara Rimerez.
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`Yes.
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`Who
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`bathroom come up in what was being
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`ventilation?
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`HVAC, exhaust.
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`A What kind of question are
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`Yeah, did you ever have that
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`No,
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`I never had anyone from
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`No. Yes.
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`Did anybody ever complain
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`No.
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`I'm sorry,
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`decided that number?
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`Mike and myself.
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`You said that
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`Q What about
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`the toilet
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`exhaust being shut off,
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`is that
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`something in the lease as well?
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`No.
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`Do
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`And what
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`6:00.
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`8 o'clock is the
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`operating hours of
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`We
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`the floor comfortable when people come
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`Q Were you aware of what
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`the
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`of any safety measures that
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`they used
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`when they did their cleaning,
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`do you
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`were you aware of what
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`Q, _When you and Mr. Wong set up
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`To my knowledge there is no
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`_code on the toilet exhaust.
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`So then that would be there
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`was nothing that you considered, you
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`there was nothing applicable?
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`A 1 Nothing to my knowledge.
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`the AC, was
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`I'm not sure what's on that
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`application, 20—thousand pages.
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